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armor plate => armor bolts, nuts, hinges => Topic started by: steve1973 on September 09, 2015, 09:52:18 PM
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OK guys the new bolts are here. If you need some bolts contact me at chevy3100@comcast.net with your needs. Get them before they are gone. My last run sold out in two weeks!
(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/DSCN3266.JPG)
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The prices are as follows:
PRICES
1 inch armor bolts $.40 each
1-1/4 inch armor bolts $.45 each
Halftrack Pack - What's included $400
700 - 1" armor bolts
300 - 1.25" armor bolts
SHIPPING
up to 200 bolts $10.00
201 to 1000 bolts $15.00
Shipping will start next week for orders placed now.
Thanks,
Steve A.
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thats great steve.
can you post a pic of a reproduction screw next to an original?
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also
for those considering buying garys bolts that he reduced to 35 cents as soon as steve A posted these.
garys 1" bolts are not 1" . they are 15/16" and 7/8". they don't fit right.
also the slots are a mixture of 3 different widths.
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Competition is good...proves G. had his stuff priced too high to begin with, and it only takes someone like Steve A. to go out of his way and make something like this happen to help out the community. Thanks Steve!
-Tom
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Hi All, Thaks for all the orders coming in. I will be busy this week filling orders. I also added a Halftrack Pack. With this you get 700 - 1" armor bolts and 300 - 1.25" armor bolts. That will cover most of what you need to put a halftrack together with some extras. The price is $400 for this item.
Here is some info on just what is required for a halftrack as bolts are concerned.
for the amor plates:
screw, fl head 3/8-24 1 1/32 qty 39
screw, fl head 3/8-24 1 9/32 qty 8
screw, oval-hd 3/8-24 7/16 qty 6
screw, oval-hd 3/8-24 29/32 qty 131
screw, oval hd 3/8-24 1 1/32 qty 433
screw, oval hd 3/8-24 1 5/32 qty 196
screw, oval-hd 3/8-24 1 9/32 qty 42
nut, safety 3/8-24 qty - 905
Steve A.
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steve-0, you asked for photos, here they are.
(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/DSCN3270.JPG)
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Steve A.
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Pm sent
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I want to say a few things about what is being said about armor bolts. When I started my research into getting these made, the biggest concern I had was to make the "correct" bolt. So, what does that mean? I guess that depends on who you are and what you like. In model railroading their is a name for this and that is a "rivet counter". Well, what I have found going through many samples of bolts from numerous halftracks, vendors incluging Gary Hebding, Rod Shaver and others is that quality control was minimal. I found vast differences in all aspects of the head shape, slot width, depth and even how it was cut. So, when I submitted tolerances for these bolts we sampled quite a few of them and took the average as our center point. The other thing to take into consideration is the counter sink in the armor plate itself. This to varied as much as the bolts did. Some fit well, some were to shallow and others to deep. I fitted samples to the ten or so different original armor plates I have for this info. It was war back then guys. The quicker the vehicle got to the battle front the better. The life expectancy of these vehicles wasn't intended to last forever you know. Just my few cents on the topic.
Lastly, Gary's bolts work just fine. I use them when needed. They just need to be cleaned, de-rusted, some may need to run a die over to clean or fix the threads and some are just not usable. As Gary said, he has drums full of these that have sat for many years. With a little work they are fine to use.
Mine are ready to use out of the box. No extra work needed. My bolts do come from over seas but I don't have a problem with that and the people that bought from me last time didn't either including Gary.
Yes, I sold my balance of 7500 of the 50,000 I had to Gary on my last run. I sold bolts to whom ever wanted them first come, firs serve. Gary called needing some for a project and asked to buy what I had left. He paid the same as everyone else. I have no problems selling to him or anyone else. With that I was out of bolts. For the next several months I was getting requests for these bolts and referred the callers to Gary as he was selling some of what I sold him. This last Year I've been getting an increased amount of requests to do another run. I was able to get a good price doing a double order and here you go, another fresh supply of bolts. I hope that answers everyone's questions on the matter.
Steve A.
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Mike,
Your PM did not go through.
Steve A.
Pm sent
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Lastly, Gary's bolts work just fine.
yes they do but they are 15/16 and 7/8" long not 1"
as i posted here http://halftrackinfo.com/index.php?topic=461.0
i don't know why you are defending him when he is trying to screw you over.
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the head size looks a little different from the first batch to the second.
do these new screws have a 3/4" diameter head?
it might just be the camera angle.
(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/3753/DSCN32741.jpg)
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The shape of the head is a little different but within tolerances.
Steve A.
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if you are going to sell your parts on this site then you need to describe them accurately.
within tolerance doesn't mean anything
do they fit exactly like the screws in this pic?
or are they more like the course thread screws in this link
http://www.fastenersuperstore.com/products/469574/machine-screws
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I've seen these bolts and the fit in the armor, looked okay to me.
Don G.
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Steve-0,
They fit as in the photos I provided above and clearly labeled. Some holes they fit like the photo you submitted, some a little shallower and some a little higher. Like I said the countersink varies some. What else can I do to please you. No one else seems to have a problem with them. I've sold over 10000 so far since I have posted them. Here are the official specifications from the mill.
(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/armor_bolt_specs.jpg)
This represents the mid range of all the samples I have measured from various vendors and off at least four different halftracks including White, Autocar and Diamond-T. The bolts don't quite come to a sharp point at the edges but not all do. I don't see why you are making a big fuss over this as no one else seems to have a problem. Maybe they are not the "perfect" bolt to your standards. I've spent many hours in this project and think they turned out great and the fit and do the job just fine. ;D
Steve A.
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I don't see why you are making a big fuss over this as no one else seems to have a problem. Maybe they are not the "perfect" bolt to your standards.
(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/3753/DSCN32741.jpg)
you posted this pic which seems to show a different size head.
when i asked you didn't answer the question but just said they where within tolerance.
i still don't know the head size. your drawing shows sharp edges but your screws don't.
china manufacturers are often loose on there tolerances so i don't know if it is between the .720-.740 you have listed.
all you had to do was mic a screw and post the size to my original question. this shouldn't be a hard question.
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My box of bolts arrived today Steve…thanks!
Steve-O, I think what you're seeing is an illusion due to the difference in length. I don't have a micrometer, but I put this new 1 1/2" bolt next to a first run 1" bolt and the slot is identical, the head appears the same width and height, and it has the same taper. The threaded portion "looks" thinner, but that is also an illusion as they both work perfectly with an original locknut.
Check this out. The red lines are the same length but the one on the left appears shorter: https://www.brainbashers.com/illusionimages/85.gif
Thanks again Steve A.!
-Tom
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Thanks for the kind remarks Tom. I have close to 10K sold now and working on some big over seas orders. I have plenty more if anyone else is needing bolts.
Steve A.
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PM sent
Harley
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Hello all, my armor bolt inventory of more that 90,000 armor bolts has been sold to Kevin Lockwood, aka col.halftrack. Please contact him for all your armor bolt needs. Thanks.
Steve A.