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Tapper02

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Gauge cluster
« on: December 21, 2010, 12:54:14 AM »
Does someone have a decent closeup picture of the instrument cluster (fuel level, oil pressure, ammeter & water temp) that they can email to me?  I can't seem to find anything other than black and white or pictures of clusters that are old/faded/rusted/corroded. 
I got a new case/bezel/glass (see below) but I can't figure out how to get the bezel off, without damaging it, in order to repaint it.  I'd like to send off the pictures below and the picture of what I need to a gauge restoration guy to see what he would charge to disassemble, repaint and reassemble.  I thought this would be easy, but....
Any suggestions on who could do this?  I've read up on the topic over on the G503 forum and have heard of Sean Elliot, Bob Speedometer service and Laurent Chuinard in France.  Not sure who to go to.

Thanks, Tom



1942 Diamond T M3 Halftrack
  (Being restored to an M3A1 configuration)
  Frame Number M31789
  Ordnance Number 3692
  Hood Number USA W403570-S
1944 Schelm Bros. M10 Ammunition Trailer
  Serial Number 16959
MVPA # 30507

steve-0

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Re: Gauge cluster
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2010, 04:08:33 PM »
i have taken them apart with a small screw driver. if you look at the ring part that would be against the dash you will see that it is crimped over, you have to work that up slightly about 1/4 of the way around, then it comes off. i think there is a special tool for this but i have never been able to find it.
i have never seen one with the baker logo, where did you find it? is there still a good source for these?

Tapper02

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Re: Gauge cluster
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2010, 08:28:55 PM »
Yeah, I initially tried to take it apart myself using that method but I could see myself jacking it up.

I got the bezel off of EBay from a guy in Vietnam, along with two of the four gauges at a pretty decent price...especially compared with what they've been going for lately.  He lists them from time to time.  I was skeptical but had zero issues.  He goes by "Bluemoonscooter".  As a matter of fact, here is one listed right now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VIntage-gauge-case-housing-IHC-International-Half-track-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45f79bb488QQitemZ300506920072QQptZVintageQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Thanks, Tom
1942 Diamond T M3 Halftrack
  (Being restored to an M3A1 configuration)
  Frame Number M31789
  Ordnance Number 3692
  Hood Number USA W403570-S
1944 Schelm Bros. M10 Ammunition Trailer
  Serial Number 16959
MVPA # 30507

spec4don

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Re: Gauge cluster
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 02:25:18 PM »
Hi Tom, Gallion rollers and graders used the same gauge panel, I have a real nice one that is all bronze colored it's pretty cool. but the temp guage is electric. I need to find a speedo to rebuild. One of the manuals has a break down on rebuilding gauges. doesn't look that complicated.

Don g.
1941 M2A1 not restored
1942 M3 Diamond T Mostly restored
1943 M3A1 Under restoration
1967 M51A2 Tractor
1945 WC 63 needs restoration
1967 M36 Long wheel base duece
1951 M135 GMC Fire truck conversion

Tapper02

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Re: Gauge cluster
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 08:51:27 PM »
I'm sending my gauge cluster housing off to Bruce @ Bob's Speedometers in Michigan...the two shops I tried here in San Diego were going to have to reinvent the wheel to repaint the face.  So, my next step when I get it back is to mount the four NOS gauges to the housing.  Has anyone done this before?  The reason I ask is that I need ALL of the attaching hardware...bolts, nuts, washers, studs, etc.  Is there a good place to get all of the hardware that is spec'd out in the ORD 9 SNL G-102 on page 157?

-Tom
1942 Diamond T M3 Halftrack
  (Being restored to an M3A1 configuration)
  Frame Number M31789
  Ordnance Number 3692
  Hood Number USA W403570-S
1944 Schelm Bros. M10 Ammunition Trailer
  Serial Number 16959
MVPA # 30507

Thundercat97

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Re: Gauge cluster
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 08:00:14 AM »
Tom,

Bruce has done the gauges on all my stuff - WC, CCKW and Track.  Not cheap but you will have great results.   He was also able to get the right glass for them - almost an exact match to the original (just a tad thinner but not by much).   Shoot me an email off line (rs_ross@hotmail.com) with exactly what you need.  I can check my stash of junk parts from the old clusters I tore down, etc.... I might have some things you can use - no promises but I can look.

Rob

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Re: Gauge cluster
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2011, 08:55:40 PM »
Tom,

Bruce has done the gauges on all my stuff - WC, CCKW and Track.  Not cheap but you will have great results.   He was also able to get the right glass for them - almost an exact match to the original (just a tad thinner but not by much).   Shoot me an email off line (rs_ross@hotmail.com) with exactly what you need.  I can check my stash of junk parts from the old clusters I tore down, etc.... I might have some things you can use - no promises but I can look.

Rob

Thanks, I will.

-Tom
1942 Diamond T M3 Halftrack
  (Being restored to an M3A1 configuration)
  Frame Number M31789
  Ordnance Number 3692
  Hood Number USA W403570-S
1944 Schelm Bros. M10 Ammunition Trailer
  Serial Number 16959
MVPA # 30507