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Title: Bought four of them. Germany
Post by: Der Wolfshof on March 01, 2025, 02:00:42 PM
Good evening from Germany.

I had four of them and already sold two. One to England and the other one stay in Germany.
The workshop is finished and now it’s time to start the restauration in a few weeks. All of them stand for over thirty years (maybe more) and all converted to M16.
Because of the german weapon law, it make no sense to rebuild as a M16.
I prefer M3A1

Need information about this frame number: 294254. M16 ? Thats the one i will restore for me. (M3A1)
What would you do?

Kind regards
Max
Der Wolfshof
Title: Re: Bought four of them. Germany
Post by: Der Wolfshof on March 01, 2025, 02:06:41 PM
That’s the Data Plate in my HT
Title: Re: Bought four of them. Germany
Post by: Der Wolfshof on March 01, 2025, 02:08:24 PM
That’s how my frame number looks like.
Title: Re: Bought four of them. Germany
Post by: 8683jb on March 01, 2025, 02:52:00 PM
Hallo, Max. Schönen Samstag! I suggest contacting Kevin Lockwood for information about your frame number. He's col.halftrack on this site.
Viel Glück bei Ihrem Projekt.

Jon
Title: Re: Bought four of them. Germany
Post by: mfrance on March 01, 2025, 06:49:29 PM
G 503 forum  site covers all the ser # and models of halftracks  in the tracked section


https://forums.g503.com/viewforum.php?f=24

Your frame # stamped  is white m16
The dash data plate restamp is done like a Autocar m3
 
Title: Re: Bought four of them. Germany
Post by: col.halftrack on March 05, 2025, 08:51:39 AM
 Der Wolfshof: 8683jb and Mfrance are on track.   I do not think this data plate is correct for the frame. Two separate vehicles. The Data plate is a post war rebuild plate. The plates were apparently produced by White Truck company but were used without concern on vehicles of any original manufacture. So this plate was affixed to a Autocar M3, Serial Number M3-22513 during February 1952 when that vehicle was converted to a M16A1. So no fold down armor and a taller M45 gun step ring.
  The Frame Number 294254 would have been for a very late M16 built by White Truck Company around JAN 1944. Without the Ordnance number which is normally only found on the data plate we can only guess at more details. You might want to look in the three places most likely to have been stamped during a rebuild. 1. Top surface of the front bumper, 2. RH Bogie casting near exhaust tailpipe bracket. 3. LH Drivers door upper hinge.
   Kevin