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cpetronis

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Chris' embarrasing learning experience
« on: January 02, 2011, 10:17:15 AM »
      I decided to keep my halftrack in my father's barn this winter instead of at my house. He lives out in the country with rolling hills and much more land at his disposal than my little suburban village.
      My family and me happened to be up at Dad's on New Year's Day and given that the weather was unusually warm, I decided to fire up the track. I like to blow the junk out of the carb, spark plugs, etc at least once a month during the winter.
       We've had some snow recently but due to the high winds there were bare spots all over the frozen lawn and fields combined with some three to four foot deep snow drifts. So off I go tootling around, the vehicle is running flawlessly. I'm skirting the inside perimeter of his former horse field kind of near his wooden fence. The terrain might be hard to explain but basically I was heading back to the barn on the side of slight hill and then attempted to make a right turn up the hill. This being the lee of the hill a huge snow drift had formed right from the point I attempted to make my turn. I'm sure some of you more experienced half track drivers know what happened next.
      Even with my front axle engaged, I couldn't turn up the side of the hill. The vehicle decided to take the path of least resistance and continue going in the direction that the tracks were pushing it. While some of you sit back and say "no duh" I must admit this was the first time I've ever encountered any conditions that proved an obstacle to my half track.
      I attempted to back up but within about two feet got stuck in the snow bank. Because of the very warm temps the snow seemed to be especially slippery. So now I'm faced with not being able to go back or turn right up the hill. Straight down following gravity was going to put me through the horse fence. Luckily for me, Dad's been wanting to get rid of the dilapidated fence for a while as we haven't had horses in years. I graciously helped him out with about 10 feet of it. I basically went for broke, pointed down the hill, which the M3 did happily and made it to the bottom. I must admit I was rather crest fallen that I'd encountered something which stopped my mean, green, 9 ton squishing machine.
     So now I'm at the bottom of a hill on the perimeter of the family property. How to get back up? Well I just picked a part of the hill with a more gentle slope. We use it for sleigh riding for the kids and go up and down it all the time with the snowmobiles so I figured it wouldn't be a problem. Oh contraire mon frere. I'm powering up the hill no problem until I reached the crest. That was all she wrote. Tracks spinning, front wheels spinning I'm suddenly heading back down the hill. I couldn't believe it. I'm thinking that perhaps if I had more weight in the back, like say a rifle squad of guys, maybe I would've made it. It just seems that there was almost some point of weight equilibrium at the top of the hill and I just lost all traction. Again, perhaps a "no duh" moment for some of you more seasoned guys but I was much chagrined.
      I was therefore ingloriously forced to drive though our neighbor's corn field out to the main road and come back home that way. Good thing it wasn't an alfalfa field or I wouldn't dared have crossed it. Either way I now feel like a big dufass.
      I've pulled my 18 wheeler and other people's armour out of the mud with the half track with no problems. Until yesterday there's never been anything that would stop it. I guess I can only chalk this up to me having unrealistic expectations of what a tracked vehicle can do in the snow and me being a lousy driver for now knowing. I can swear however that I negotiated terrain much worse with my MB back at Fort Indiantown Gap in deep January snow a few years ago. I don't know, all I do know is that I'm sort of sad right now.  :-[

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Re: Chris' embarrasing learning experience
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2011, 12:12:05 PM »
Thanks for sharing Chris.  While my track is still being restored, I have to live vicariously through others.  Sounds like a fun day regardless!  Any pics of the fun in the snow?  You know someone was going to ask that question.

- Tom
1942 Diamond T M3 Halftrack
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1944 Schelm Bros. M10 Ammunition Trailer
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MVPA # 30507

PeteG

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Re: Chris' embarrasing learning experience
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2011, 08:25:16 PM »
My only question is, how in the heck did you manage to git rid of the horses? I've been trying to do that for years, if I can ever pull it off I'll have more time and money for my halftrack!

Thanks for sharing, good read.

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Re: Chris' embarrasing learning experience
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2011, 12:34:56 AM »
great story. i was talking to one farmer that used to use halftracks alot and he said they if they cant make it through something going forward then he would do it in reverse and and usually make it.

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Re: Chris' embarrasing learning experience
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2011, 07:44:09 AM »
     Thanks all for your kind responses. The horses were gone years ago while I was still on active duty. I was the only person who ever rode them when I came home on leave once every six months. Don't ask my why my folks bought them in the first place. Try riding a horse that hasn't had a saddle on in that long. Not too much fun. I think Dad just put them in the paper cheap, and they were gone. Then because he didn't want to be troubled with mowing the fenced in area, he bought Lamas. They only lasted about two years before they were sold as well. Lamas didn't seem to have tons of personality.
      My father did say that it looked pretty cool as I smashed through his fence. So the half track might now be used as a demolition machine for the remaining several hundred feet.
      Here's a hill driving question for you all. If I'm going up a steep hill is it safer to go straight up or attack it at like a 10 degree angle? We didn't get a lot of armor driver's training in the navy. I therefore have a steep learning curve here.

Regards,

Chris

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Re: Chris' embarrasing learning experience
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2011, 09:26:23 AM »
 Oh contraire mon frere.


I like your sense of humor. Great story.

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2011, 10:11:46 AM »
And now you're a seasoned halftrack driver!

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Re: Chris' embarrasing learning experience
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2011, 09:37:27 AM »
Chris, don't feel bad. snow and ice tracked vehicles not a good combination. I was riding shot gun a D7 cat in the army and we were going down to help get M60 tank unstuck the driver got too close to the edge of the road and over the bank we went. Took me a while to get the vinyl out of my crack.

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Re: Chris' embarrasing learning experience
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2011, 11:05:35 PM »
Tracks are great flotation, but in snow that's not usually a good thing.  The traction is below the snow, you have to cut through it to go anywhere.  Anything that helps you float is a bad thing...

cpetronis

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Re: Chris' embarrasing learning experience
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2011, 12:22:47 PM »
   Thanks all for the encouraging replies. Have you ever seen that original WWII footage of a Sherman skidding backwards down a road and into a building on the corner? I figured ice is ice no matter what type of vehicle you were in but I just didn't think snow what immobilize me that much. Oh well, live and learn.
    In the last couple of weeks we've gotten another 15" on the ground or so now that its compacted. I've got to get up to Dad's house and play around with it some more.

Regards,

Chris