Author Topic: New Halftrack Track Issues  (Read 1047 times)

Jesse

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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2023, 05:44:52 AM »
I think you have been very patient and kind to the manufacturer. Maybe it’s time to name names. Others  in the hobby need to know.

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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2023, 06:06:54 AM »
I’m still not going to name names yet. As much as it’s a pain in the backside and I feel as if I have been patient throughout, I still have a problem with these tracks that needs sorting.

8683jb

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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2023, 11:02:11 AM »
It's decent of you not to name anyone until you're sure the problem is with their tracks and if it is, to give them a chance to respond and offer a remedy, but if they've read your complaints and after two or three weeks haven't even answered, that's an integrity issue that's even worse than the track issue, in my opinion. Their silence speaks volumes and I hope they'll step up and address your complaints and not continue to just blow you off. If they don't, then I agree with Jesse about broadcasting it to prevent someone else getting burned. I sure wouldn't want to do business with someone like that. It's a ton of money to spend on something with no customer support.
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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2023, 02:59:59 PM »
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In the end, as I work as a design and development engineer as well as a manual machine operator, I solved the issue myself with so experimenting.

What was the solution to the first problem you were working on? Regarding the new problem, the hot spot is just on one side?

JamieM5halftrack

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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2023, 11:05:50 PM »
I solved the first issue by machining all of my old guides from the broken track and the spare track I had and fitted them to the new track. The original guides will not fit the new tracks without modification. When you compare the original guides with the new reproduction ones they are nowhere near the same.

The hot spot is on/in 1 track only. I have spoken to someone who has experienced the same issue years ago with a set of Isreal tracks. We don’t know the outcome as the tracks were worn anyway so they got changes for a new set.

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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2023, 11:49:49 PM »
The original guides have a 5/8” diameter machined hole in the centre with a counterbore to locate the spring washer. The original guides are also shaped slightly to give you a one point of contact.

The reproduction guides have no 5/8” diameter machined hole, the holes are cast meaning they are not round nor are they tight fit on the stud. I measured some and the holes were measuring up to 3/4” diameter in places. The counterbore for the spring washer is also absent so the nut and washer is never clamping down on a flat face. This I believe is why the guides keep coming loose. The shape of the reproduction guides are also all flat sides and not curved as per the originals so the friction involved is much greater.

R.E.Co.

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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2023, 03:04:17 PM »
I'm sorry you're dealing with those issues. Tracks should last longer than 1,200 miles. So far my new US tracks have about 150 miles on them, and I drive mostly on roads with some off roads, and I've seen a wear of .006 inches or 6 thousands in those miles. At this rate, I'll be up in the 3,200-3500 miles with the tread depth on mine which are slightly better than originals and significantly better than other reproduction tracks.

If there's any information or help I can offer, please don't hesitate to reach out.

Good luck and hopefully you get a positive remedy.

Jon
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Tapper02

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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2023, 04:24:22 PM »
Definitely sounds like a manufacturing defect.  Even if most of the the tracks that have been made aren't experiencing issues, there can still be exceptions.  I think the manufacturer should be asking for that track back so they can analyze it for quality control issues. 

Where else have you put this out?  This forum is pretty small, and a lot of users have migrated over to the FB "White Half Track Enthusiasts" group and/or also use the "Tracked" section of the G503.com forum.  It certainly wouldn't hurt to put this on multiple social sites to get the broadest dissemination...not only for other owners but maybe to encourage better communication and resolution from the manufacturer.
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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2023, 02:57:06 AM »
I'm sorry you're dealing with those issues. Tracks should last longer than 1,200 miles. So far my new US tracks have about 150 miles on them, and I drive mostly on roads with some off roads, and I've seen a wear of .006 inches or 6 thousands in those miles. At this rate, I'll be up in the 3,200-3500 miles with the tread depth on mine which are slightly better than originals and significantly better than other reproduction tracks.

If there's any information or help I can offer, please don't hesitate to reach out.

Good luck and hopefully you get a positive remedy.

Jon

Jon, I heard rumour that you may be exporting to the U.K. in the future, is that correct?
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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2023, 08:09:28 PM »
One question ?   Make sure your running track in forward direction as guides are 1 direction  so your not running it backwards at high speeds .. just something to check as tracks are directional
Have seen others put tracks  on backwards  not realizing  the simple ...
Bummer for the issues if its something else ...

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Re: New Halftrack Track Issues
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2023, 04:01:35 PM »
I'm sorry you're dealing with those issues. Tracks should last longer than 1,200 miles. So far my new US tracks have about 150 miles on them, and I drive mostly on roads with some off roads, and I've seen a wear of .006 inches or 6 thousands in those miles. At this rate, I'll be up in the 3,200-3500 miles with the tread depth on mine which are slightly better than originals and significantly better than other reproduction tracks.

If there's any information or help I can offer, please don't hesitate to reach out.

Good luck and hopefully you get a positive remedy.

Jon

Jon, I heard rumour that you may be exporting to the U.K. in the future, is that correct?

Hello! Yes that is correct. I will be putting a post up soon about it!

Jon
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