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KC

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Mud Flaps
« on: May 23, 2012, 04:58:50 PM »
What were the original mud flaps made of? These are the ones hung fromt the rear bumper behind the tracks. Some pictures look like rubber, others look like heavy canvas. If canvas is it several layers bonded together?

Thank you. KC

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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 09:13:56 PM »
I think Beechwood Canvas has them and I assume they are canvas.
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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 10:06:09 AM »
One of my mud flaps were still there or at least 8" of it. The weathered area was tan canvas that was very thick, maybe 1/8" or so. Where it was still sandwiched between the body you could see that it was impregnated with rubber.  I have an original SNL 2 that shows the mud flap dimensions. If I recall it was 13"X16". I searched for this type of canvas to find only that the WW2 transit bag had the same thick tan canvas wide enough and long enough , plus stiff enough.  I sewed the edges and put a stainless rod in the trailing edge for weight and I think they worked great. I since have collected many of these bags to make more.  I will post some picks and maybe take some orders if anyone likes them.  I am not sure, but want to try spraying a bed liner and then clamping them between some steel lined with plastic wrap to simulate the rubber finish.  The beach wood ones I have seen are a couple layers of OD canvas stitched together and I wanted to match my HT original instead.  I checked my other HT and found it to be the same under the body clamps(rubber coated canvas).
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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 07:44:35 AM »
fielddrab,
 I will be interested so keep us posted.
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fielddrab

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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2013, 08:33:39 PM »



 I will send a pic of my original as soon as I figure out where I put it.  also I will Try the rubber coated one and post those pics too.
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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2013, 09:31:50 AM »


Above pics of where the flap was secured in sandwich plates. (Both sides)

Back side of flaps from two different HTs. Larger from M3 75 with fender lights. Small one from M3A1/M16A1

Sun faded bad on outside.

Flip side of flaps (sun bleached sides)
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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2014, 04:34:47 PM »
John,
  Can you fix the links to your pictures?  Also, did you ever get to the point of rubber impregnating the canvas?  If so, how did they turn out?

-Tom
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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2014, 06:54:22 AM »
i think a pair of yosemite sam" backoff " flaps would be great
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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2014, 06:40:44 PM »
Talked to Beachwood today and they are making a run of mud flaps to match the original dimensions of 13 1/2" x 16"…their previous runs had been 13 1/2" x 13 1/2".  I'm still interested in the impregnation process if anyone has any info.

-Tom
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1944 Schelm Bros. M10 Ammunition Trailer
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steve1973

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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2014, 04:12:22 PM »
While I was at Tower Park I measured Tim Sutter's mud flaps and are 15 3/4" wide and 13" tall. I got a set at the convention last year from SOSMV and are 11 1/2" wide and 18" tall. They were $70 a set. I had also got the radiator draft seals $65, fender welting $50 and cab draft seals for the transmission levers $35. All items are canvas. They do not have an email address, only a phone number 406-550-2472.

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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2014, 07:02:35 PM »
Yeah I noticed my sosmv mudflaps were too narrow. I decided to keep them on my old halftrack as I doubted anyone would complain but me. My new halftrack has NOS ones in good shape, but probably not after a few hundred miles.

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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2014, 07:43:13 PM »
I've seen period photos with both size mud flaps so who's to saw which is correct or not. :-\

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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2014, 08:55:58 PM »
I have a '44 dated ORD 9 SNL G-102 that has them listed as 13 1/2" x 16".  That said, if I already had a set I wouldn't replace them.
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  (Being restored to an M3A1 configuration)
  Frame Number M31789
  Ordnance Number 3692
  Hood Number USA W403570-S
1944 Schelm Bros. M10 Ammunition Trailer
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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2014, 08:59:44 PM »
Tom-
Did you get a price for a set from Beechwood?
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Re: Mud Flaps
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2014, 09:38:16 PM »
$110 for the set.  I'm still waiting for a response from Jim Clark at Allied Canvas in the UK who also makes them.

-Tom
1942 Diamond T M3 Halftrack
  (Being restored to an M3A1 configuration)
  Frame Number M31789
  Ordnance Number 3692
  Hood Number USA W403570-S
1944 Schelm Bros. M10 Ammunition Trailer
  Serial Number 16959
MVPA # 30507